Doubt — Bontempi, Palladium Theologicum V · from Schola Thomistica
Doubt II: On immodesty in words, gestures, jokes, and games
AS modesty in keeping measure consists chiefly in externals, as D. August. teaches, de vita beata, disp. 3. cited by D. Bonavent. lib. 2. Pharetra, cap. 41. so in excess, posture, habit, and in all your movements let nothing be done that offends anyone's aspect, as D. August. says, reg. 3. cap. 20. cited by the holy Doctor.
Sicut modestia in modo servando, quoad externa maxime consistit, ut docet D. August. de vita beata, disp. 3. apud D. Bonavent. lib. 2. Pharetra, cap. 41. ita in excessu, statu, habitu, et in omnibus motibus vestris nihil fiat, quod cuiusquam offendat aspectum, ut ait D. August. reg. 3. cap. 20. apud S. Doctorem.
Whence D. Ambrosius loco citato, de offic. cap. 18. cited by the holy Doctor there, says: Nor do I think it becoming to walk in haste, unless the cause of some danger, or just necessity, requires it.
Unde D. Ambrosius loco citato, de offic. cap. 18. apud S. Doctorem ibi, ait: Nec cursim ambulare honestum arbitror, nisi cum causa exigit alicuius periculi, vel iusta necessitas.
And D. Isidorus in synon, cap. 9. there. Professio nem tuam habitu, et incessu demonstra. Sit in gressu tuo simplicitas, in motu puritas, in gestu gravitas, in incessu honestas. [Show your profession by habit and gait. Let there be simplicity in your step, purity in your movement, gravity in your gesture, honesty in your walking.] The reason is, because as the exterior members pertain to the physical integrity of man, and are moved according to the command of the will; so too to moral perfection it pertains to order rightly the movements of the same, both that they befit the person acting, and that they be suited also to business and places, as Tannerus argues disp. 3. quaest. 3. dub. 8. num. 211. from D. Bonavent. in speculo disciplinae ad novitios, part. 1. cap. 19. et seq.
Et D. Isidorus in synon, cap. 9. ibi. Professio nem tuam habitu, et incessu demonstra. Sit in gressu tuo simplicitas, in motu puritas, in gestu gravitas, in incessu honestas. Ratio est, quia sicut membra exteriora ad physicam hominis integritatem pertinent, et iuxta voluntatis imperium moventur; ita etiam ad perfectionem moralem pertinet eorundem motus recte componere, tum ut conveniat personae operanti; tum ut accommodi sint etiam negotiis, et locis, ut arguit Tannerus disp. 3. quaest. 3. dub. 8. num. 211. e D. Bonavent. in speculo disciplinae ad novitios, part. 1. cap. 19. et seq.
Concerning words, sin occurs in foolish talking, in jests, and in jocose words.
Circa verba occurrit peccatum in stultiloquio, ludicris, et iocosis verbis.
This indeed is that ignorance and flux of words which is dangerous, according to Prov. 10. In multiloquio non deerit peccatum. [In much talking sin will not be wanting.] Of this Isidorus in synon. cap. 9. multiloquium non declinat peccatum, sinuosus enim exundans cito colligit lutum, and there: loqui multum, stultitia est, et vox insipientis in multiplicatio ne sermonis.
Haec sane verborum inscitia, et profluentia periculosa est, iuxta id Prov. 10. In multiloquio non deerit peccatum. De hoc Isidorus in synon. cap. 9. multiloquium non declinat peccatum, sinuosus enim exundans cito colligit lutum, et ibidem: loqui multum, stultitia est, et vox insipientis in multiplicatio ne sermonis.
D. Gregory, homil. 12. in Ezech. It is exceedingly difficult that he who speaks many things should not also lie.
D. Gregorius homil. 12. in Ezech. Valde difficile est, ut qui multa loquitur, non etiam mentiatur.
The same in Pastorali, part. 3. admonit. 15. and lib. 7. Moral. cap. 17. Because it has not the wall of silence, the city of the mind lies open to the darts of the enemy; and when by many words it casts itself outside itself, it offers itself wholly open to the adversary, who overcomes it so much the more without labor, as it, though conquered, fights against itself by much talking. In Proverbs it is said, as a city open, and without the circuit of walls, so is a man who cannot restrain his spirit in speaking.
Idem in Pastorali, part. 3. admonit. 15. et lib. 7. Moral. cap. 17. Quia murum silentii non habet, patet inimici iaculis civitas mentis; et cum per multa verba se extra semetipsum eiicit, apertam se totam adversario offendit, quam ille tanto sine labore superat, quanto et haec eadem, quae vincitur contra semetipsum, per multiloquium pugnat. In Proverbiis dicitur, sicut Urbs patens; et absque murorum ambitu, ita vir, qui non potest in loquendo cohibere spiritum suum.
The same lib. 10. Moral. cap. 2. It is certain that a wordy man cannot be justified.
Idem lib. 10. Moral. cap. 2. Certum est, quod verbosus vir iustificari nequeat.
The same lib. 7. cap. 17. The justice of the mind is desolated when no sparing is had of immoderate speech.
Idem lib. 7. cap. 17. Mentis iusticia desolatur, quando ab immoderata locutione non parcitur.
These things the holy Doctor has, Pharetrae lib. 3. cap. 3.
Haec S. Doctor Pharetrae lib. 3. cap. 3.
Of foolish talking the holy Doctor has much there from the holy Fathers, where he also has that golden sentence of D. Gregory, lib. 2. Moral. cap. 7. Among men the heart is weighed from words, but before God words are weighed from the heart.
De stultiloquio multa habet S. Doctor, ibi e sanctis Patribus, ubi auream illam etiam habet sententiam D. Gregorii, lib. 2. Moral. cap. 7. Apud homines cor ex verbis, apud Deum vero verba pensantur ex corde.
The same D. Gregory, lib. 16. cap. 1. They who know not how to measure their words, without doubt slip into idle sayings: in which, if they do not at all reprehend themselves, they at once spring forward to harmful and contumelious ones.
Idem D. Gregorius, lib. 16. cap. 1. Qui verba sua metiri nesciunt, proculdubio ad otiosa dicta dilabuntur: in quibus, si se minime reprehendunt, statim ad noxia, et contumeliosa prosiliunt.
The same lib. 3. Dialog. cap. 5. It comes about from speaking with seculars that we pass from idle things to harmful, from light to graver. See the holy Doctor loco citato Pharetrae.
Idem lib. 3. Dialog. cap. 5. loquendo cum saecularibus fit, ut ab otiosis ad noxia, a levibus ad graviora veniamus. Vide S. Doctorem loco citato Pharetrae.
These things are simply venial, as St. Bonavent. notes, in speculo animae, cap. 3. §. Circa inhonestatem in gestu; and they are reprehended by Paul to the Ephesians, saying that such things ought neither to be, nor to be named among us.
Haec simpliciter venialia sunt, ut notat. S. Bonavent. in speculo animae, cap. 3. §. Circa inhonestatem in gestu; et reprehenduntur a Paulo ad Ephesios, dicente talia nec esse, nec nominari debere in nobis.
These, however, are to be weighed from the affection, he says, according to the rule of D. Gregory cited above, or according to the scandal of the person, insofar as they incite to evil, and are said with such intention, they can be mortal, he says; and thus he asserts of songs, choruses, and plays.
Haec autem ex affectu pensanda, ait iuxta regulam D. Gregorii supra allatam, vel secundum scandalum personae, pro ut ad malum incitant, et tali intentione dicuntur, mortalia esse posse, ait, et sic de cantilenis, choraeis, et lusibus asserit.
Hence he gravely gathers that actors, dancers, and jesters, who allure to pleasures by dishonest words and deeds, that they may extort money, are not in a state of salvation; and such were also the ancient spectacles, which Chrysostomus homil. 6. in matth. and other Fathers condemn, as Tannerus notes, disp. 3. quaest. 3. dub. 8. num. 216.
Hinc graviter colligit histriones, saltatrices, ioculatores, qui inhonestis verbis, et factis alliciunt ad delectationes, ut pecuniam extorqueant, non esse in statu salutis, et talia fuere etiam antiqua spectacula, quae Chrysostomus homil. 6. in matth. et alii Patres damnant, ut notat Tannerus, disp. 3. quaest. 3. dub. 8. num. 216.
Hence the holy Doctor gathers from D. Augustine, tract. 110. in Ioannem, that it is sin to give money to these men and to be present at their comedies; yet he does not condemn it as mortal, if they are heard out of curiosity without danger of consent, even if the things are base.
Hinc colligit S. Doctor e D. Augustino, tract. 110. in Ioannem, peccatum esse pecunias dare istis, eorumque comediis interesse; non tamen id damnat ut mortale, si ob curiositatem audiantur absque periculo consensus, etiamsi res sint turpes.
Bonacina consents, de Matrim. quaest. 4. puncto 9. num. 22. Squillante, de oblig. Cler. part. 2. num. 45. Sanchez de Matrim. lib. 9. disp. 47. num. 41. Alphonsus de Mendoza, quaest. 9. positio. num. 11. fol. 607. Rodrig. Summa, tom. 3. cap. 71. Salas prim. 2. tom. 2. tract. 13. disp. 6. sect. 24. num. 165. Lorca prim. 2. tom. 2. disp. 28. de peccatis, membro 3. who puts the condition, provided the pleasure stops in the representation, and does not pass over to the thing represented. Azorius subscribes to these parte 3. lib. 5. cap. 27. quaestio. 7.
Consentiunt Bonacina, de Matrim. quaest. 4. puncto 9. num. 22. Squillante, de oblig. Cler. part. 2. num. 45. Sanchez de Matrim. lib. 9. disp. 47. num. 41. Alphonsus de Mendoza, quaest. 9. positio. num. 11. fol. 607. Rodrig. Summa, tom. 3. cap. 71. Salas prim. 2. tom. 2. tract. 13. disp. 6. sect. 24. num. 165. Lorca prim. 2. tom. 2. disp. 28. de peccatis, membro 3. qui ponit conditionem, dummodo delectatio sistat in repraesentatione, non autem transeat ad rem repraesentatam. Subscribit his Azorius parte 3. lib. 5. cap. 27. quaestio. 7.
They hold, consequently, that it holds good even as to Clerics, who do not sin mortally, scandal ceasing, which now has been taken away like rust; for Clerics are frequently present at Comedies. But that they are prohibited C. Clerici 2. de vita, et honest. Cler. Diana says, parte 2. Tract. 27. resol. 35. does not oblige under mortal sin, with Cajetan, verbo Clericorum peccata. Nay, they say this has been abrogated by custom — Sanchez, Rodriguez, Salas, Bonacina, and Squilante, above.
Eam vero consequenter tenent valere etiam quoad Clericos, qui non peccant mortaliter, cessante scandalo, quod modo rubigine ablatum est; frequenter enim Clerici adsunt Comoediis. Quod vero prohibentur C. Clerici 2. de vita, et honest. Cler. ait Diana, parte 2. Tract. 27. resol. 35. non obligare sub mortali, cum Caietano, verbo Clericorum peccata. Imo hoc consuetudine esse abrogatum aiunt Sanchez, Rodriguez, Salas, Bonacina, et Squilante, supra.
I, however, with Diana assert these things to be dangerous, nor easily to be conceded. Therefore also Comitol. resp. Moral. lib. 5. quaest. 21. condemns it with mortal sin; and the matter reduced to practice, I judge it to be always in danger, as appears from the confession of those who are present, who always retire defiled.
Ego tamen cum Diana assero haec esse periculosa, nec facile concedenda. Ideo et Comitol. resp. Moral. lib. 5. quaest. 21. mortali peccato damnat, et re ad praxim deducta, existimo semper esse in periculo, ut patet confessione eorum, qui adsunt, qui semper coinquinati recedunt.
Concerning immodesty in games, the holy Doctor supposes, loco citato Speculi animae, that honest and moderate games are reduced to Eutrapelia with Aristotle, 4. Eth. cap. 8. The reason is, because relaxation of the mind is necessary to man from labors and occupations, as D. Thom. also teaches, quaest. 168. art. 2. For as the fatigue of the body is recreated by its rest, so also the fatigue of the mind by its rest.
Circa immodestiam in ludis, supponit S. Doctor, loco citato Speculi animae, ludos honestos moderatos ad Eutrapeliam reduci cum Aristotele, 4. Eth. cap. 8. Ratio est, quia remissio animi, est homini necessaria a laboribus, et occupationibus, ut docet etiam D. Thom. quaest. 168. art. 2. Sicut enim fatigatio corporis, quiete eius recreatur, sic et fatigatio animi eiusdem requie.
He admonishes, however, that excess in these can be, either from intention, and then such also is the work; or it can be evil by reason of scandal, as if a Religious person, or one placed as an example, should lead choruses and dances; Or perhaps if these were exercised on Parasceve. Three things, therefore, are necessary, that this relaxation be not perverse.
Monet vero, excessum in his esse posse, vel ex intentione, et tunc tale est etiam opus; vel posse esse malum ratione scandali, ut si persona Religiosa, vel posita in exemplum, choreas, et tripudia ducat; Vel forte si haec in Parasceve exercerentur. Tria igitur necessaria sunt, ut ea relaxatio non sit prava.
FIRST, that nothing base be sought in games or jests.
PRIMUM, ne quaeratur in ludis, vel iocis turpibus.
SECOND, that the gravity of the mind be not altogether dissolved, nor be poured out too much in jests, as Ambrose admonishes, lib. I. de offic. cap. 20. where he says: Let us beware, lest while we wish to relax the mind, we dissolve all harmony, as it were a certain concord of good works. And Cicero lib. I. de offic. As we do not grant to boys every license of playing, but that which is not alien from honest actions, so in jest itself let some light of a good nature shine forth; not that you be the more dissolved, as the holy Doctor admonishes. loco citato Pharetrae ex Patribus.
SECUNDUM, ne omnino gravitas animi resolvatur, neue in iocos nimis effundatur, ut monet Ambrosius, lib. I. de offic. cap. 20. ubi ait: Cavemus, ne dum relaxare animum volumus, solvamus omnem harmoniam, quasi concentum quemdam bonorum operum. Et Cicero lib. I. de offic. Sicut pueris, ait, non omnem ludendi licentiam damus, sed eam, quae ab honestis actionibus non sit aliena, sic in ipso ioco aliquod probi ingenii lumen eluceat; non ut magis dissoluaris, ut monet S. Doctor. loco citato Pharetrae ex Patribus.
THIRD, that it befit the person, place, and time, as Cicero admonishes, loco citato.
TERTIUM, ut congruat personae, loco, et tempori, ut monet Cicero, loco citato.
THERE is granted, however, also that vice which I call Saturnine, opposed in the other extreme, as the holy Doctor teaches. locis adductis, whereby some are willing neither to speak nor to hear anything urbane.
DATUR vero et vitium, quod ego voco Saturninum, oppositum in extremo, ut docet S. Doctor. locis adductis, quo nec loqui, nec audire aliquid urbanum aliqui volunt.