Question — Bontempi, Palladium Theologicum V · from Schola Thomistica
Question VI: Whether the payments and commissions that bankers receive are lawful
BY the name of provisions I understand, with Lessius dub. 8. and Caspensis sect. 8. the fee, and gain, which money-changers, and bankers deduct from money to be counted, by reason of the work they render in writing, counting deposited money, keeping it, obliging themselves for another; and managing the business of another.
An solutiones, et provisiones, quas Campsores accipiunt sint licitae.
NOMINE provisionum intelligo cum Lessio dub. 8. et Caspensi sect. 8. mercedem, et lucrum, quod Campsores, et Bancharii detrahunt pecuniae numerandae, ratione operae, quam praestant scribendo, numerando pecuniam depositam, custodiendo, pro alio se obligando; et alterius negotia custodiendo.
By immemorial custom in the provision of Exchanges there is due to money-changers a third part of a scudo for every hundred scudi, according to the money on which the exchange is paid, or the assignment made. So Molina disp. 408. Caspensis sect. 8. Boninsignus de Cambiis, cap. 7. Romoald. Cod. de Cambiis, cap. 21. Scaccia de commerc. §. 3. Gloss. 3. num. 12. Scortia in Bullas Pontific. Epitome 107. Theor. 291. Fillincius tom. 2. tract. 33. part. 2. cap. 10. num. 475. and others with those whom Diana reports resol. 6.
Ex immemorabili consuetudine in Cambii provisione debetur Campsoribus tertia pars scuti pro singulis centenis scutorum, secundum pecuniam, de qua solvitur cambium, seu efficitur assignatio. Ita Molina disp. 408. Caspensis sect. 8. Boninsignus de Cambiis, cap. 7. Romoald. Cod. de Cambiis, cap. 21. Scaccia de commerc. §. 3. Gloss. 3. num. 12. Scortia in Bullas Pontific. Epitome 107. Theor. 291. Fillincius tom. 2. tract. 33. part. 2. cap. 10. num. 475. et alii penes illos, quos refert Diana resol. 6.
THEREFORE a money-changer, or money-broker may take a just fee for the custody of money, and the obligation of returning it. For these things are estimable in price. But if in the name of the depositor he disburses, and counts to another, let him still receive a fee from him in whose name he pays, and whom he serves. So Nauar. cap. 17. numero 293. Caspensis loco cit.
IGITUR potest Campsor, vel Nummularius accipere iustam mercedem pro custodia pecuniae, et obligatione eam reddendi. Haec enim sunt pretio aestimabilia. Quod si nomine deponentis eroget, et numeret alteri, accipiat adhuc mercedem ab eo, cuius nomine solvit, et cui servit. Ita Nauar. cap. 17. numero 293. Caspensis loco cit.
IT IS PROVED by Valentia puncto 3. because the whole is for the benefit of him by whose order the payment is made. Advert, however, that this exaction is licit if it has been stipulated, or if custom obtains. Say the same of the respondents of the money-changer, and of the correspondent, for the same reason.
PROBATUR a Valentia puncto 3. quia totum est in gratiam illius, cuius ordine fit solutio. Aduerte tamen exactionem hanc esse licitam, si stipulata fuerit, vel si adsit consuetudo. Idem dic de respondentibus Campsoris, et Campsarii, ob eamdem rationem.
THERE is a great controversy: Whether this third part of a scudo per hundred is just also in the provisions which are taken in recambes, and continuations.
MAGNA contentio est: An haec tertia pars scuti pro centenario sit iusta etiam in provisionibus, quae sumuntur in recambiis, et continuationibus.
SOME allege it, because it is taken in all the fairs of the world. So Boninsignus, tract. de Camb. cap. 7. num. 23. and others with Diana resol. 7.
ALIQUI afferunt, quia in omnibus mundi nundinis accipitur. Ita Boninsignus, tract. de Camb. cap. 7. num. 23. et alii apud Dianam resol. 7.
FOR Justice, or injustice of the provisions, one must stand by the judgment of merchants.
PRO Iustitia autem, vel iniustitia provisionum standum est iudicio mercatorum.
BUT others deny it to be licit. So Coli de Camb. cap. 21. Malder. 2. 2. tract. 5. c. 4. disp. 7. and thus Diana counseled the Merchants.
SED alii id licere negant. Ita Coli de Camb. cap. 21. Malder. 2. 2. tract. 5. c. 4. disp. 7. et ita consuluit Diana Mercatoribus.
THE REASON is, because provisions are due for labor: but the labor in recambes, and continuations is not the same as in real Exchanges: Therefore.
RATIO est, quia provisiones debentur pro labore: at non est idem labor in recambiis, et continuationibus, qui est in Cambiis realibus: Ergo.
SOME answer that the money-changers ought not on that account to desist, because they would labor in other new Exchanges, if the correspondents paid.
RESPONDENT aliqui, quod Campsores non ob id debent omittere, quia laborarent in aliis Cambiis novis, si Campsarii solverent.
OTHERS answer, that gain is due also by reason of the peril of losing the principal; and it can happen that the perils are greater in the continuation, because with the passage of time the correspondent can become worse off, and at last go bankrupt. Therefore the provisions ought to be unequal.
RESPONDENT alii, deberi lucrum etiam ratione periculi amittendi sortem; potest autem esse, ut maiora sint pericula in continuatione, quia successu temporis potest Campsuarius fieri deterior, et tandem decoquere. Igitur debent inaequales esse provisiones.
NOR does Scortia satisfy, saying that an equal provision can be taken for unequal perils, because the perils are uncertain.
NEQUE satisfacit Scortia dicens, posse ob pericula inaequalia accipi aequalem provisionem, quia pericula sunt incerta.
But I suppose that uncertainty must be computed; but uncertainties are unequal. Moreover there are some perils that are certain; and therefore I add too, that a greater quantity makes a greater peril, and so one to be paid for.
At suppono, computandam esse incertitudinem; at incertitudines sunt inaequales. Praeterea sunt aliqua pericula certa, et ideo etiam addo, maiorem quantitatem facere maius periculum, atque adeo esse solvendum.
IT SEEMS that the holy Doctor, ad cap. 2. Ioan. in ea verba: Invenit in Templo nummularios, etc. reprobates these receipts, which he proves from that Ezech. 22. Usuram, et superabundantiam non accipies. The reasons indeed adduced prove so to me.
VIDETUR S. Doctor ad cap. 2. Ioan. in ea verba: Invenit in Templo nummularios, etc. has receptiones reprobare, quod probat ex illo Ezech. 22. Usuram, et superabundantiam non accipies. Rationes quidem allatae mihi probantur.
BUT Romoaldus Coli warns gravely in tract. de Cambiis, cap. 21. that two provisions must not be received, one in the place where the Exchange is made; another at the fairs, for the agent himself.
GRAVITER vero admonet Romoaldus Coli in tract. de Cambiis, cap. 21. non esse duas provisiones recipiendas, unam in loco, ubi efficitur Cambium; alteram in nundinis, pro ipso agente.
YOU WILL ASK first. Whether one provision is due for an Exchange great, and small. Diana resolves this resol. 10. Caspensis num. 40. wishing a greater to be given for a greater Exchange.
QUAERES primo. An debeatur una provisio pro Cambio magno, et paruo. Hanc resolvit Diana resol. 10. Caspensis num. 40. volentes dari maiorem pro maiori Cambio.
I WONDER that this is debated, given those things taught before, namely that by immemorial custom it is observed that a third part of one per hundred be given. Therefore Scortia says epit. 107. Theor. 291. that if the sum of the Exchange be one million, the gain of the provisions will be 3333. This pleases Coli tract. de Camb. cap. 21. Scavia de commer. §. 3. Gloss. 3. num. 471.
MIROR, haec agitari suppositis his, quae ante docuere, nempe consuetudine immemorabili servari, ut detur tertia pars unius de centenis. Ideo ait Scortia epit. 107. Theor. 291. quod si summa Cambii sit unius millionis, lucrum provisionum erit 3333. Arridet Coli tract. de Camb. cap. 21. Scavia de commer. §. 3. Gloss. 3. num. 471.
YET Diana urges against it, because Notaries too, in drawing up a deed of the same labor for a great sum, receive a greater stipend. Some add that it is due by reason of the peril, which is greater in a greater sum of money exhibited.
URGET tamen contra Diana, quia Notarii quoque conficiendo scripturam eiusdem laboris pro magna summa recipiunt maius stipendium. Addunt aliqui, deberi ratione periculi, quod maius est in maiori pecunia exhibita.
YOU WILL ASK secondly: Whether the custom of the money-changers of not accepting payment of the principal, unless at the same time the damages of the Exchanges be paid, be licit.
QUAERES secundo: An consuetudo Campsorum de non acceptanda solutione sortis, nisi simul solvantur detrimenta Cambiorum, sit licita.
Diana answers resol. 12. asserens, adducing Lessius lib. 2. cap. 23. dub. 10. num. 87. Salas tract. de Camb. disp. 65. Filliucius tom. 2. tract. 35. part. 2. cap. 10. num. 472. Malderum 2. 2. tract. 5. cap. 4. dub. 10. Therefore a money-changer, to whom by chance ten are due as principal, but three for interest, and provisions; when in the computation he receives three, may take them in satisfaction for the interest, and provisions, and is not bound to deduct the three from the principal.
RESPONDET Diana resol. 12. asserens, adducens Lessium lib. 2. cap. 23. dub. 10. num. 87. Salas tract. de Camb. disp. 65. Filliucius tom. 2. tract. 35. part. 2. cap. 10. num. 472. Malderum 2. 2. tract. 5. cap. 4. dub. 10. Itaque potest Campsor, cui pro sorte debentur decem, pro interesse autem, et provisionibus tria; quando ad computum recipit tria, ea accipere in solutum pro interesse, et provisionibus, et non tenetur tria minuere de sorte.
You will ask thirdly: Whether a money-changer, who in good faith gave Peter money to be paid by exchange at Rome, thinking him to have money in such a place, and afterwards discovers that he had it not; can exact as much gain as he would have received, if the correspondent had paid at Rome.
Quaeres tertio: An Campsor, qui bona fide dedit Petro pecuniam ad Cambium solvendum Romae, existimans, illum habere pecuniam in tali loco, et postea comperiat, eum non habere; possit tantum exigere, quantum lucri percepisset, si Campsarius Romae solvisset.
I suppose, that if he did this in bad faith, it would be usurarious, because with no title except the delay would he exact a premium.
Suppono, si mala fide id faceret, esse usurarium, quia nullo titulo, praeterquam dilationis, exigeret praemium.
To the question Lessius answers affirmatively dub. 7. num. 69. Molina disp. 404. and Diana resol. 14. and Caspensis judges it probable sect. 8. num. 41.
Ad quaestionem respondet affirmative Lessius dub. 7. num. 69. Molina disp. 404. et Diana resol. 14. eamque probabilem censet Caspensis sect. 8. num. 41.
You will ask fourthly: Whether a money-changer can stipulate from the beginning with the correspondent a certain, and determined interest, even in the case of non-payment.
Quaeres quarto: An Campsor possit cum Campsario a principio pacisci certum, et determinatum interesse, etiam in casu non solutionis.
Filliucius tom. 2. tract. 35. part. 2. cap. 7. num. 424. Homob. de exam. part. 2. tract. 9. cap. 15. quaest. 4. and others deny it, Pius V. forbidding it.
Negant Filliucius tom. 2. tract. 35. part. 2. cap. 7. num. 424. Homob. de exam. part. 2. tract. 9. cap. 15. quaest. 4. et alii ex Pio V. id prohibente.
But indeed, since the Bull is founded on the presumption of usurarious fraud, it will avail in the forum of conscience, if it be morally certain that that interest is morally just. So Lessius lib. 2. cap. 33. dub. 11. num. 90. Reginald. tract. 2. lib. 25. cap. 34. num. 467. and others.
Enim vero, cum Bulla fundetur in praesumptione fraudis usurariae, in foro Poli valebit, si moraliter constet, illud interesse moraliter esse iustum. Ita Lessius lib. 2. cap. 33. dub. 11. num. 90. Reginald. tract. 2. lib. 25. cap. 34. num. 467. et alii.
But whether in such a case the money-changer sins mortally. Salas disp. 13. Rebell. part. 2. lib. 11. quaest. 13. num. 5. affirm it; but Diana resp. 14. Granado part. 2. contr. 7. tract. 3. puncto 15. sect. 2. Sà verbo Cambium. deny it. The Authors of the first opinion are founded on the decree of Pius V. which does not cease to bind, the fraud ceasing, because it was enacted to remove occasions of sinning, which indeed remain, if liberty be given not to observe it. But others say it does not bind, because when the reason of the law ceases in the particular, the law ceases to bind in that particular.
An vero in tali casu peccet mortaliter Campsor. Affirmant Salas disp. 13. Rebell. part. 2. lib. 11. quaest. 13. num. 5. sed negant Diana resp. 14. Granado part. 2. contr. 7. tract. 3. puncto 15. sect. 2. Sà verbo Cambium. Fundantur Authores prioris sententiae in decreto Pii V. quod non cessat obligare, cessante fraude, quia statutum est ad removendas peccandi occasiones, quae sane remanent, si detur libertas illud non servandi. Alii vero dicunt, non obligare, quia cum cessat ratio legis in particulari, cessat lex pro illo particulari obligare.
I will relate the conditions required by Pius V. for an exchange to be licit: First indeed he condemns all dry exchanges, such as those in which, by the intention of the contracting parties, payment is made in the same place; because the one has not money elsewhere. Then in a real exchange he requires these conditions.
Referam conditiones requisitas a Pio V. ad cambium licitum: Primo quidem damnat omnia cambia sicca, qualia sunt ea, in quibus ex intentione contrahentium fit solutio in eodem loco; eo quod alter alibi pecuniam non habeat. Deinde in cambio reales has requirit conditiones.
The first, that the money-changer stipulate for no gain by reason of the delay. And that this be usury the Doctors assert with St. Bonaventure in the speculo animae, cap. 2. §. tertius fructus principalis.
Prima, ne Campsor ratione dilationis paciscatur de aliquo lucro. Et hanc esse usuram asserunt etiam DD. cum D. Bonavent. in speculo animae, cap. 2. §. tertius fructus principalis.
The second is, that from the beginning, or afterwards, no certain interest be stipulated, even in the case in which payment would not be made at the due time.
Secunda est, ne ab initio, vel postea pacifcatur de certo interesse, etiam in casu, quo non fieret solutio debito tempore.
The third condition is, that real exchanges not be made by letters otherwise than for the next fair, or, if the fair be not held; the next terms, according to the usage of places; otherwise they will be usurarious. Hence exchanges to the second fair with greater gain are forbidden, not with an equal one, or to the second one by force of the first Exchange. So the Doctors with Bassaeum num. 17.
Tertia conditio est, ne realia cambia per litteras fiant aliter, quam ad proximas nundinas, vel si nundinae non agantur; proximis terminis, iuxta usum locorum, alioqui erunt usuraria. Hinc prohibentur cambia ad secundas nundinas cum maiori lucro, non cum pari, vel ad secundas, vi primi Cambii. Ita Doctores apud Bassaeum num. 17.
The fourth condition is, that in establishing the terms of payments regard be had to the distance, and nearness of the places to which payment is destined, that longer terms not be appointed than the distance requires. This Pius V. in the year 1571. with Navar. cap. 17. num. 299.
Quarta conditio est, ut in terminis solutionum constituendis habeatur ratio longinquitatis, et vicinitatis locorum, in quibus solutio destinatur, ne longiores statuantur, quam postulet distantia. Haec Pius V. anno 1571. apud Navar. cap. 17. num. 299.
Lessius adds, however, that in a few places, or perhaps nowhere, at least as to some conditions, does this Decree bind.
Addit tamen Lessius, paucis locis, vel forte nusquam, saltem quoad aliquas conditiones hoc Decretum obligare.
You will ask fifthly: Whether the Exchange of custody be licit, by which a money-broker takes upon himself the care of keeping moneys deposited with him, and keeps an account of datum and acceptum, and is ready to restore to those asking it.
Quaeres quinto: An licitum sit Cambium custodiae, quo Nummularius suscipit curam custodiendi pecunias, apud se depositas, et habeat rationem dati, et accepti, et paratus sit reddere eum petentibus.
It is answered, with Valentia puncto 3. that some stipend can be received for it.
Respondetur cum Valentia puncto 3. posse aliquod stipendium inde recipere.
From what has been said you have the titles by which money-changers can rightly take gain in real, local exchanges.
Ex dictis habes titulos, quibus Campsores in cambiis realibus localibus rite possunt recipere lucrum.
First when the money-changer first receives the moneys, to restore them elsewhere, he can gain by the title of the translation of money, even if it be only virtual, since even there he has respondents. For this is useful to the correspondent, and estimable in price; although for this virtual one less is due to him. So Graff. p. p. lib. 2. cap. 110. Sylvius 2. 2. quaest. 78. art. 4. quaest. 3. Molina tract. 2. disp 403. Bonacina disp. 3. quaest. 5. part. unic. Reginaldus lib. 25. num. 454. et 461. Filliucius tract. 35. part. 2. num. 380. Layman lib. 3. tract. 4. cap. 19. num. 7. Malder. 2. 2. tract. 5. cap. 5. de Camb. dub. 3.
Primo quando Campsor prior accipit pecunias, ut alibi restituat, lucrari potest titulo translationis pecuniae, etiamsi virtualis tantum sit, quippe et ibi habet respondentes. Haec enim utilis est Campsario, et pretio aestimabilis; etsi pro hac virtuali minus ei debeatur. Ita Graff. p. p. lib. 2. cap. 110. Sylvius 2. 2. quaest. 78. art. 4. quaest. 3. Molina tract. 2. disp 403. Bonacina disp. 3. quaest. 5. part. unic. Reginaldus lib. 25. num. 454. et 461. Filliucius tract. 35. part. 2. num. 380. Layman lib. 3. tract. 4. cap. 19. num. 7. Malder. 2. 2. tract. 5. cap. 5. de Camb. dub. 3.
The second title is the assurance of the correspondent's money, and the peril of his own, if he has it not in that place to which it is to be transferred; but if he has it, it is a matter of his industry, or fortune, which is to be esteemed at a price. So the Doctors alleged, with whom Bassaeus subscribes num. 11.
Secundus titulus est assecuratio pecuniae Campsarii, et periculum propriae, si in eo loco non habet, quo est transferenda; quod si habeat, eius industria, vel fortunae est, quae pretio est aestimanda. Ita DD. allegati, quibus subscribit Bassaeus num. 11.
Then, because money present, as lent, is to be esteemed at more than money absent, and the further off it is, the less to be esteemed: Navar. in manuali, cap. 17. num. 289. Azor 3. part. lib. 10. cap. 6. quaest. 4. Filliucius cit. num. 595. Bonacina cit. num. 6. Reginaldus n. 416. Toletus lib. 5. cap. 53. Valentia disput. 5. quaest. 23. puncto 4. Bassaeus num. 12.
Deinde quia pecunia praesens praestita, est pluris aestimanda, quam absens, et quo longius abest, eo minus aestimanda: Navar. in manuali, cap. 17. num. 289. Azor 3. part. lib. 10. cap. 6. quaest. 4. Filliucius cit. num. 595. Bonacina cit. num. 6. Reginaldus n. 416. Toletus lib. 5. cap. 53. Valentia disput. 5. quaest. 23. puncto 4. Bassaeus num. 12.
Add that the estimation of money is greater in the place where it is given; Syluester V. Usura 4. quaest. 8. Filliucius num. 380. Lessius dub. 4. num. 34. Reginaldus num. 461. Malder. disp. 3. Layman cap. 19. num. 8. Filliucius num. 404. Lessius dub. 6. num. 55. Malder. disp. 4. add another title: the lack of money, and the peril lest it not be restored. Truly merchants esteem lacking their money six months at more than three, because meanwhile they lack the faculty of gaining by it.
Adde maiorem esse pecuniae aestimationem in loco, ubi datur; Syluester V. Usura 4. quaest. 8. Filliucius num. 380. Lessius dub. 4. num. 34. Reginaldus num. 461. Malder. disp. 3. Layman cap. 19. num. 8. Alium titulum addunt Filliucius num. 404. Lessius dub. 6. num. 55. Malder. disp. 4. carentiam pecuniae, et periculum ne restituatur. Sane mercatores pluris aestimant carere sua pecunia sex mensibus, quam tribus, quia interim carent facultate lucrandi illa.
Advert that Monopoly of raising the price is unjust, and obliges to restitution of the excess above the just; Toletus lib. 5. cap. 53. Filliucius cap. 7. n. 415. Navar. de usur. num. 59. Sotus de iust. lib. 6. quaest. 12. art. 3. Bonacina cit. num. 36. Salon. de Camb. quaest. 4. art. 2. contr. 23. The abettors also of a monopoly are bound to restitution in solidum, if the principals do not pay, against Molina disp. 345. Lessius lib. 2. c. 21. dub. 20. num. 151. Salon. dub. 38.
Adverte Monopolium augendi pretium esse iniustum, et cogit ad restitutionem excessus supra iustum; Toletus lib. 5. cap. 53. Filliucius cap. 7. n. 415. Navar. de usur. num. 59. Sotus de iust. lib. 6. quaest. 12. art. 3. Bonacina cit. num. 36. Salon. de Camb. quaest. 4. art. 2. contr. 23. Cooperatores quoque monopolii ad restituendum obligant in solidum, si principales non solvant, contra Molinam disp. 345. Lessius lib. 2. c. 21. dub. 20. num. 151. Salon. dub. 38.
A money-changer, giving moneys to one whom he does not trust, can require security, and a pledge, Azor 3. part. lib. 10. cap. 11. quaest. 11. Lessius dub. 8. num. 77. Tolet. cap. 52. Salas disp. 21.
Campsor, dans pecunias ei, cui non fidit, potest securitatem exigere, ac pignus, Azor 3. part. lib. 10. cap. 11. quaest. 11. Lessius dub. 8. num. 77. Tolet. cap. 52. Salas disp. 21.
*A money-changer, to whom the correspondent after many ex-*changes, and recambes has handed over a part of the debt, is not bound to compute that part toward the extinction of the principal, but can compute it for interest, and gains. The reason is, because when from some principal debt other debts are born as from a root, as fruits; then if payment be made first, it is held to be made for those fruits: then if anything is left over, it is computed into the principal, as is plain from the practice in the payment of rents, and the payment of the debts of a Society. So Filliucius num. 471. Bonacina de contract. disput. 3. quaest. 5. puncto unic. Lessius dub. 10. Salas de Camb. num. 25. Bassaeus loco cit. num. 12. Which is to be attentively observed.
*Campsor, cui Campsarius post multa cam-*bia, et recambia tradidit partem debiti, non tenetur eam partem computare pro extinctione capitalis, sed potest ea computare pro interesse, et lucris. Ratio est, quia quando ex debito aliquo principali tanquam ex radice nascuntur alia debita, tanquam fructus; tunc si fiat solutio primo, censetur fieri pro fructibus illis: deinde si quid superfit, computatur in sortem, ut patet ex praxi in solutione censuum, et solutione debitorum Societatis. Sic Filliucius num. 471. Bonacina de contract. disput. 3. quaest. 5. puncto unic. Lessius dub. 10. Salas de Camb. num. 25. Bassaeus loco cit. num. 12. Quod attente est servandum.